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Post by <]S&S[>ShareMan on Sat 30 May 2009 - 22:59

Me and a lot of Sof2 players with me hate the stupid annoying alert of being punished after staying too long on the same place.
On this server the counter is set that short you can't even hide when you are under fire.
That means you have to run all time, to avoid a punishment.

Kam2
Example: You walk through the upper tunnel, and hear shots behind you,
you go back kill someone and resume to where you came from.
While you walking accross that point, the annoying message begins counting down from 5.
Meanwhile the whole opposite team comes around the corner and start shooting at you.

Kam2 Example2: You have reached the opposite part alive and after a fight on the bridge, you reach the entrace of the base.
Suddenly the alert starts counting, you have to run.
Not for the enemy but for a stupid server setting.

This is for kam2 and the other maps as well.
Listen i am playing sof for fun and strategy but not to be on the run for an stupid alert whole time.
It realy takes my game experience away.
I don't see the benefit of this prediculous method.
Campers will still go on because they simply move 10 feet away when the alert starts, from one to another save camp place.


The most time this setting wasn't enabled, but last week it was and so i spoke to <]S&S[>Blade about it.
In his opinion it was realy working against campers, and he didn't care about my complaint.
Contrary he was looking for the people who disabled it before, so he is the one that is responsible for this annoying fact.
So i started to discuss to him and he replyed late and filial.
Now other admins have read this i want them to take action.


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Post by Chickos on Sun 31 May 2009 - 19:50

Hello Shareman,

You are totally right. Lots of people hate the alert popping up when you are not even camping.

My oppinion is:

No timer for campers, let the admins take care of this.
Where else do you have admins for.

Admins have abbility to:

!warn
!pop
!strip (very effective against campers)
!plant

this are 4 admin commands which can help against campers.

Soo I don't see any reason to let the server handle this by itself.

Do we have enough admins to handle this??

If the answer is yes:

let them handle it.

If the answer is no:

Make more b-admins.

Shareman thank you for bringing this subject up. It was annoying me to for a long time already.

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Post by <]S&S[>ShareMan on Mon 1 Jun 2009 - 19:34

Hi Chickos,

Thank you at first for understanding and supporting me in this case.
And second for the clear solutions you offer.
Keep me updated about further developments.
And see you soon at sof2.

Greetz shareman

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Post by <]B*A[>Blade on Tue 2 Jun 2009 - 15:08

First of all let me laugh ( Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing lol! )

Second. Not my fault, Steven wants server set with anti-camp on so it wont be turned off unless you guys let him know how much you dnt like it ( like this (bad choice of name) topic).

Due to steven and sabrina being afk again for a bit.. I'll speak with Perry & there will be some new promotions soon this may help with the problem. ( Already have a few names in mind)

As far as Anti-Camp goes.. It Remains on & not to be touched unless directed otherwise.

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Post by <]S&S[>ShareMan on Tue 2 Jun 2009 - 17:44

Where is this go about?
You know as well as i this policy don't have ANY EFFECT against campers.
Especially MR GARCIA is realy skilled in camping and avoiding the alerts on this server.

If you don't believe me come playing, you are most time offline like a lot of other people who wear S&S tags.
This is where is the problem occurs.

So make daily players admin, disable that stupid method, and degrade some who never appear.


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Post by Chickos on Tue 2 Jun 2009 - 18:49

ouch...

I little bit to rough maybe. But you are right at this.

We really need more b-admins in the server. Perry, sabrina, blade, steven....
I hope you guys agree with me at this point.

I'm playing every day and i will take the responsibilty to take care of abusing b-admins. So that won't be the point.
We really need more admins!!

We all wan't the server to run without problems and things like that.. Some little changes can help a lot.
We will wait patiently till you spoke with perry and/ore sabrina & steven about this.

I really think so B-admins are a good solution, it's not much power but enough to take care of campers(wich is all we need).

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Post by <]B*A[>Zori on Tue 2 Jun 2009 - 19:41

Hi guys..
I play almost every day and its true that the alert doesnt keep campers away.. It helps, but not much.. I usually punish them myself, but im not playing all the time, and other admins are gone often.. I see lot of cheaters too, but i cant ban them..=( I think anticamp is good but it shouldnt be so quick.. Thats my opinion..

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Post by Chickos on Wed 10 Jun 2009 - 20:52

Today 2 people in server went to another server because of the camper punishment and respawn wait-time.

For real... Do something about this problem.

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Post by <]S&S[>Perry on Wed 10 Jun 2009 - 23:35

i agree its sucks really and a a badmin or admin can turn it of when he is on the server typ /adm anticamp 0 BUT Turn it on when you leave then there is no problem

i play not that must on the moment beceause i get promoted
but i will play in the weekend and a lot have my or blade msn so if there a problem let us know thanks
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Post by Chickos on Wed 10 Jun 2009 - 23:45

YES Very Happy, thx for the advice! This makes playing on server a lot more attrictive for a lot people(including me)Very Happy.

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Post by Tha Playah on Thu 11 Jun 2009 - 17:28

good admins can turn it off and on:D its really anoying me if im typing to some1 who asked me a question or when im eating peanuts =/
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Post by <]S&S[>ShareMan on Thu 11 Jun 2009 - 18:02

In the past few weeks Blade said to me he couldn't change the Player punisment without Stevens agreement.

But last week the alert was disabled for a short time, guess who enabled it again? Blade!
In my poll about the Player punisment, guess who voted pro Player punisment? Blade!
And last week suddenly the spawn interval is set much higher.
Beside that i the /adm anticamp 0 command doesn't work either.

I don't know who or what to believe, or whats next.
I hear different names of people who seems to be valuable.
Who has the main control on this server?

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Post by <]B*A[>Blade on Thu 11 Jun 2009 - 18:41

Steven is the owner of this server and controls the settings, he's away so (Right now me and perry) and Shareman, your accusations you make in a sarcastic way are not the best way to go abt solving any problem especially this because its just gonna piss people off shareman and get you in arguments w/ clan members, so stop it now b4 it causes problems in this clan bc you dnt know what your talking abt and i'll be the first one angry ( I only bring this up bc it's a re-occuring event with you ), I did not enable anything first of all, i fixed the mapcycle to the right one and in the mapcycle we use, ANTI CAMP is turned ON because steven wants it that way. I personally know how to play this game with out camping, so yeah i am PRO Player punishment because it doesn't effect me either way on or off.
(When steven gets back he will be final decisson of if it's on or off but for now it should stay on, All Admins leave it on... Me & Perry will fix the anti camps settings)

As far as Why the /adm anticamp 0 wouldn't work for you is because your not an higher level admin.
B-Admins cnt do it, & perry when you get a chance mate we will tlk on msn abt this entire topic.

Anticamp wnt be turned off, but its time or radius will be fixed, which would be the only reason why it's so fast but what everyone needs to know is that a setting change will not stay final untill steven gets back and he changes it himself.. Because myself and perry cnt change the files on server so even if we change a setting the next mapcycle it turns right back on..

Hope this answers a few of the questions and fixes some attitudes but im always on MSN if you need to speak with me...

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Post by <]S&S[>ShareMan on Fri 12 Jun 2009 - 15:36

All right, i might reply sarcastic thats because is i did not recieve any clear info about new impulsive changes.
Your story you written above dismisses b-admins like me the right to take care of campers.
Thats opposed to what is written by Perry above.
I'm not going to post again a full reply of questions i add you on msn.


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Post by <]B*A[>Blade on Sat 13 Jun 2009 - 20:17

Thanks, & yeah perry just didn't know b-admins can't do it but na they can't.

Just add me on msn.

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Post by Chickos on Sun 14 Jun 2009 - 14:08

Even admins can't do it.

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Post by Steven on Sat 20 Jun 2009 - 15:24

Anti Camp enabled is because to many players just camp.

Camp & win ==> sry but this is not called " i have good skillz ".

Ask only S-Admins to disable AntiCamp if it works on your nerves.

To me its ok that the Admins can start using they powers to punnish Campers.

But dont ABUSE or Admin will be suspended for a certain time.

If you have Campers that still wont listen , use /adm warn ID.

After several times warned , he will be kicked.

If they come back and starts all over again , ask a S-Admin to enable AntiCamp untill the FAG CAMPER is gone.

Trust me , as admin , if you have to punnish to offen many players , you gonna become bored and fast.

Why ? Because you can not even finish one game anymore without taking care of the good run of the server.

So that's why Anti CAMP is mostely Enabled.

I gonna SET Anti Camp on 25 sec , and believe me THIS IS MORE THEN ENOUGH.

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Post by <]B*A[>Blade on Sat 20 Jun 2009 - 18:38

Thanks for the great solution Razz

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Post by Tha Playah on Sat 20 Jun 2009 - 20:53

ah then i can finaly eat my chips and peanuts when im playing and not in spec xD
and i can reply on questions without getting popped!!

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